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i was looking for a new steelhead/salmon rod and i like to use braided line but i was told it ruins the line guides is there any truth to this or should i look for a rod with certain type of guides?
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ceramic guides are safest but ive made thousands of casts with power pro on steel guides with no problems......old versions of spider wire were hard on guides but even that has changed.......but if you cast braid in the rivers please put mono ahead of anything that can get snagged......20lb braid loops in the bottom of the river do a number on 6lb mono later during winter steely fishen

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Well said Jim! Braid or fireline on rivers is bad without mono leaders...

Just curious why you like to use braided?

On my Steelhead rods I run 8 lb test mono with 4-6lb leaders.

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The type of ceramic is what makes the difference. Aluminum oxide is by far the most common (and least expensive) type of guide, but also quite soft as ceramics go and gets torn up by using superbraids. Titanium oxide is much more expensive, but also much, much harder and therefore more resistant to the abrasive properties of superbraids.

This is from the theory standpoint - I don't use superbraids on any of my rods, but have seen guides sawn almost in half by it. (One of the reasons I don't use it. ;) :lol: )

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thanks for the input, i use the briaded line because 1. mono is always getting torn up on the bottom so im always cutting the bad section out. 2. it dosent strech as much as mono giving me a better hook set in the rivers and 3. its a thinner dia. then mono. with the same pound test. i always use a mono leader about 2 to 3 foot long. theres nothing more than i hate then snagging other peoples line in the river.
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Interesting...I've never tried Braided...maybe I should and see if I like it...How is it on like a 10 degree day?

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i havent used it when its below freezing, just started to use it this summer and fall.

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Ok Thanks! Let me know how it is in the cold. 8)

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will do

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i honestly love it for a main line especially for fishing live bait under a bobber....and still fishing perch ....but where the problem is its harder then breaken 8lb maxima lol and i was honestly pulling Dons drift boat up stream on the big man last weekend with 8lb maxima lol.......the more i get into this the more i think the braid is better left to piers and river mouths when no ones around......i really believe at this point there isnt a fish in the great lakes that cant be landed on 6lb test during winter conditions......with a good drag and a long enough rod(river or pier fishen that is).........with power pro going under 20lb (6lb dia) will make for nothing but wind knots

scjustin......id bet your fishen a little heavy if your lines tearing up like that

power pro or spider or fire line for that matter dont seem to be any more pron to freeze up then mono how ever the braid will some times cut its own hole through the eyes for you

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i'm not fishn that heavy at all, i just put enough weight on the three way to just bounce and tickle the bottom. i just like to use a heavyer pound test you know just in cause i hook in to a monster king or steelie (wishfull thinking or dreaming). i use 12lb spider wire and i found that it dosent "nic up" anything like mono. i use it at some southeastern rivers and i used it last month at tippy and i was changing my mono. leader about ever half hour because of all the rocks. i was just barely touching bottom too using flys and spawn.

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12lb spider wire isnt my freind i had it snap on walleye...if it works for ya great.......if you havent tried maxima give that a shot....i wont be using anything else until i find something better.....i was using a 1/8 pencil lead at tippy last weekend.......going to heavy was just a mistake i made at first so i know it doesnt help the line out any lol

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Now that I think about it I spooled my Salmon/Steelhead spinning rod with 10 lb Maxima Ultragreen last weekend. I was getting alot of rats nests.

I usually use Yo-Zuri Hybrid camo green. It works awesome as a Main Line and is great in the cold too...Give it a try, here's their website:

http://www.yo-zuri.com/Products/ProdLine/Hybrid.htm

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yeah i will give that a try don, thanks

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I second the Yo-Zuri - it's all I use anymore. I do prefer the smoke color rather than the green though. I have some reels that have line on that's over 5 years old and it's still fine! :shock: Doesn't deteriorate with the sun or age, strong as hell compared to mono (10 pound breaks at 18, haven't yet had the 15 on my trolling reels break on anything), abrasion resistant, and the refractive index is almost the same as that of water.

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